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KarenESP
04-08-2004, 10:28 AM
Sylvia Brown has argued that there is no such thing as a soul mate for us on this earth. Therefore, we shouldn't worry about finding one.

I respectfully disagree; There are several opportunities for soul mates on this earth, for each and every one of us.

Everyone has a higher self, an angel of thier own perfect personality traits... It is difficult to be perfect in our world of challenging negativity. In a perfect world, we would transform into our higher selves, right here, right now. We must continue to work towards our perfect world, in order to allow us to release our higher powers for the good of mankind.

Each of us belongs to an Angel Family. Angels (or our higher selves) work in conjunction with others, based on common purpose for the betterment of this world.

These groups of Angels each support people here on earth. Any person who is attached to any one of the Angels, in your Angel family, would make a perfect soul mate for you.

However, we are all growing spiritually, some faster than others. We must not be afraid to move on, should we feel we have outgrown a relationship. This is for the benefit of all, including the children of these relationships.

The goal is to move on to another of your Angel Family so that you can continue to experience personal and spiritual growth.

By the very concept of spiritual growth, it is my opinon that we are all capable of finding multiple soul mates in our own world.

Sincerely, KarenESP

Mystic Matt
04-08-2004, 01:23 PM
Hi KarenESP

I agree with you completely, your message has touched me.


Thankyou

Be Calm and Loved

robinmom
04-08-2004, 04:11 PM
hi karen...wow that interprets my thoery on circle of soul mates not just one but circle of them u travel with from each life..each bein gin ur life from another life as another person..as a lesson needed to be learned in this life......i feel this anyway...i dont belive that there are no soul mates and i dont belive there is one....just my opinion though

VoulantLucius
04-08-2004, 04:37 PM
I believe in SoulMates. But differently. I grew up to ElfQuest, and do indeed believe among those lines. There's that One special person unto which of the Whole world that was created For you, and vice versa. I also heard it in a book I just re-read. He explained it as when creation is being done, of a human? That the soul is sorta and nearly split IN two. As in the other person is your 'other half'. It's along the same lines. That's what I feel soul mates are.

robinmom
04-08-2004, 04:42 PM
I believe in SoulMates. But differently. I grew up to ElfQuest, and do indeed believe among those lines. There's that One special person unto which of the Whole world that was created For you, and vice versa. I also heard it in a book I just re-read. He explained it as when creation is being done, of a human? That the soul is sorta and nearly split IN two. As in the other person is your 'other half'. It's along the same lines. That's what I feel soul mates are.

oh i have learn that as well...i dont feel that to believe it..

alll that i belive in fact i was broght up not to..i just ened up feeling the things i belive and at first questioned them and was sad that why do i feel this way and belive so diff..and i relised most everyone belives in onething or the other..there really isnt tomuch proof on what to belive on what not to and alot does connect as well...i have learned the soul split in 2..and its interesting to learn but i personllly dont belive it..i dont feel in in my own soul too but that isnt saying it cant be:)

Oh ... and hey vl..havnt seen u around the board in a few days whats up;) :2_thumbs_

VoulantLucius
04-08-2004, 04:56 PM
Try as I might, I am ever dragged back to the real world. :( No matter how much I yell or kick, I can't stay online all the time.
Also, I help out in getting all the News on Harry Potter (STOP laughing) for a friend in England, do some graphics work for a few sites, and to boot, am Desperately trying to finish my jacket of Weib Kreuz. :[ Which IS taking forever. I've purple paint on my white pants, as well as on my hand as well. Oh well, hopefully it could come out of the pants? :( NOT likely though, as I went in search For fabric paints that Won't wash out. :\ Guess I wasn't Thinking about this part. haha! Oh well.

rapplevb
04-08-2004, 05:06 PM
Karen,

We all are children of suprime Soul,(suprime Godhead) residing at Golden heavens ( Our Ultimate Home).means we are members of one Family-AngelFamily.We have come to earth for the purpose of gaining experience of personal & Spiritual growth through purification proccess.....We all have a common goal to get purified and return to our ultimate home.... to rest/stay with our Angel family.

In a way, we are soulMates-of each other in this world . Then Why do we need to find one, our soul mates.....?????

Although we,souls have common goal...to work for purification through spiritual growth, Each soul in its single life cycle on earth has a specific personal goal to be achived within the same life cycle.... and every soul has different -different goals in their each of the physical life cycle.

Example.. My soul...( The soul occupying my current physical Body vehical)
in this life cycle on earth has goal...." Independence by Oilling the works,Explore spiritual insight for the uplifting of others -serve to the mass."
(Sun on the cusp of Leo/Vergo in 9th house). so whoever is in compatibility with such Goal, soul or angel is/are my soul mates.....,If i come in contact with someone whose goal is different... for this life then our nature,thinking, working/personality may not match and we maynot be able to go alonge
well... so we can not become soulmates of each other.

once you have found perfect soul mate/mates... you work in conjunction with them to achieve common goals and move ahead for the purpose of betterment of this world....

I would like quote a story once i read in a numerology book...

" once The Master(teacher) was teaching a numerology class and while talking about compatibility, he asked one of the students for her date of birth. As he wrote it on the board he said " My goodness, you'd be perfect for me"...He then proceeded to draw his chart alongside hers and told the class how this perticular partnership would work.After the class he took the lady for a cup of coffee and few months later they got married.The master and the lady's (his then wife) life were far their happiest because they finally had found the right partners.( Soul mate)..."

the relationship appear to work smoothly when you have found perfect match
partner/partners , and that is the soul mates relationship...

rapplevb

robinmom
04-08-2004, 05:09 PM
alot of that blends into my theory of it as well...

and heeh vl..sorryabout the paint...so are you going to stay blue for while then..lol? :laugh2:

Texana
04-09-2004, 12:48 AM
I love your view of this subject. It's very thought provoking.

KarenESP
04-09-2004, 09:34 AM
try try again...

It does not matter how much we fail, only how much we try...

Grey Feather (Spirit Guide - From "The Eagle and the Rose")

Cygnusia
04-09-2004, 10:51 AM
I do believe Sylvia has the gift, but from reading some of her books and listening to her, I also believe that she can be quite opinionated and full of herself. She has also said that you can't have a spirit guide that you knew in this life... funny thing, that. One of my spirit guides is a friend from college that passed on in a car accident...

Having said that, I am fully living the "I found my soulmate" scenario! The only thing keeping me from being with her is not having my divorce yet. I'm just glad I've finally found that person that I am supposed to be with. :D

Gaia1Goddess
04-09-2004, 10:51 AM
I believe in SoulMates. But differently. I grew up to ElfQuest, and do indeed believe among those lines. There's that One special person unto which of the Whole world that was created For you, and vice versa. I also heard it in a book I just re-read. He explained it as when creation is being done, of a human? That the soul is sorta and nearly split IN two. As in the other person is your 'other half'. It's along the same lines. That's what I feel soul mates are.

Okay, that is how I feel about my brother (that is if he's truly my brother and it's not something else). It's like being split, like missing the other half of you.

This may sound weird (even for here! :laugh1: ) but yesterday I started thinking that maybe it's not necessarily someone intentionally sharing knowledge with me, it's more like the knowledge is being shared unknowingly. As if it is coming from outside and inside you. I can't really explain it.

Texana
04-09-2004, 12:07 PM
The knowlege that is meant for you finds you and becomes a part of you. :flowers:

Gaia1Goddess
04-09-2004, 12:27 PM
The knowlege that is meant for you finds you and becomes a part of you. :flowers:

Yes, it does. I think that we all keep the knowledge we receive, although sometimes we forget for a period of time. It's our job to put it to good use!

To me it feels like being two parts of one whole. What one knows, the other knows. Does that make sense?

VoulantLucius
04-09-2004, 03:49 PM
You know Gaia, from what you've told me? That sure would explain a lot. Why he's still stubbornly stuck by your side and will always go.
And for my thoughts and feelings on Finding that soul mate? I've actually NO need or want to find mine. I know I am not Possibly married to him. While I love my husband, he sure isn't my 'soul mate'. I once saw a 'spell' to do, twas for at the beach, which I go to at least once a year. Done, it was 'supposed' to show you your soulmate in through your dreams. I think it would have worked. But then after thinking on it? I felt, 'I'm happy. I don't Need to find mine, and then always wonder.' It works for me.
And I still say your theory on your brother sounds Very real to me Gaia ;)
Good thinkin!

Gaia1Goddess
04-09-2004, 03:55 PM
You know Gaia, from what you've told me? That sure would explain a lot. Why he's still stubbornly stuck by your side and will always go.

So he's stubbornly stuck to me? LMAO


But then after thinking on it? I felt, 'I'm happy. I don't Need to find mine, and then always wonder.' It works for me.

I'm glad that you're happy and not left wondering! I don't know if I would be able to do that. Which is why I'll probably be single forever! LOL

AlisClan
04-09-2004, 06:33 PM
Hummm Iv been pondering this one sense I first saw it. The dos and donts, so on and so forth.

First I can totally see where Sylvia is coming from! You have people in this life with perfectly good lifes that are unhappy because of this whole soulmate theory! The feel they havent found that person and spend countless nights aching for them. If they would just wake up and realize thier pasture is green also and let go then all would be right with the world! Their world, that is.

I also believe that you dont have ONE soul mate, you have several. You always know too. No matter what something inside you pinches and pokes to get your attention. This has happened to me several times in my life. I feel blessed that I have settled down with one of those people that I knew before I knew! I also think we have been round a life together because I knew him so well. I have an intense fear of losing him, I think we where seperated at one point of time but thats another story all together and its still offically untold! So let that be that!

There are so many definations for a soul mate, I mean really. I tend to look at it as someone you have known before, someone that carries a deep attachment to you. Someone you come with and all seems right agian.

I dont claim to have guides or other forces that help me out. Iv never actually made contact I think but Im TOTALLY sure they are there and have saved my bum on more then one occasion.

I find the older I get, the more I understand and process this world,the closer I get to "Something". Some kinda knowing that I havnet been able to put my finger on.

Registar your reactions the first time you meet someone. How do you feel? Thats the most telling thing in the world if you ask me. Ill never, ever forget the first time I met Mark in this life! He looked up and our eyes met and good lord I felt it down to my toes. I smile at the memory right now. LOL. We have moved mountians to be with one another and we will never look back! He is a soul mate to me.

Texana
04-09-2004, 06:53 PM
I knew I had a stepson ...somewhere...before I married my husband. At the time we married, Robert was about 5 and we had a son,David, a year after we married. Robert was then 6. We had Austin and then Rachel who was born when Robert was 15. In all that time I had not met Robert but I thought about him all the time.

When Rachel was five months old, I met Robert for the first time. He looked more like me than my own kids. He was interested in the paranormal, was an artist, he had freckles and his hair was the same color as mine. He looked more like me than he looked like his own mother. It wasn't these interesting similarities that brought us together, however.

We were instant friends. We felt an incredible love for each other. He barely even speaks to his dad (also my kids dad) but he asked me to serve as the mother of the groom at his wedding 13 years ago. He married Cathey who is 13 yrs older than he is. She's 4 yrs younger than I am. I love her too.

We can go months and months without contacting one another, but are able to pick up where we left off when we do.

Is that a soulmate? :hug1:

AlisClan
04-09-2004, 07:31 PM
Funny you talk about steps....... My youngest step daughter is always mistaken for my own daughter. People are always calling me her mommy. Iv known both of them sense birth but the younger one had always been my special buddy. She would come right to me to cuddle when she was a young baby. If you had told me then, that Id end up being her SM I would have laughed you right out of my house! Out of my stepdaughters moms household the youngest is the one that most mimics me and her dad (she gets alot of flack out of that)

Oh and both her and Damon are intensly interested in the paranormal! One evening after the sun had set we where all driving home and the oldest stepD asked where we where going and I said, well what do you think and the youngest one piped in "We are going to a graveyard!" I started to laugh and asked her when she was going to tell me that, all the while the oldest step berating her sister like crazy because "Alice would never do that."

This is what we refer to as famous last words!

So all I did was just turn into this little drive with one of the older graveyards in town. Theres maybe 50ish graves there left and offered to let them get out of the car and take a looksee.. I think the youngest was going to there for a moment. LOL. Well her and Damon.. Neither of them hesitate! LOL. I went one evening and Damon even walked around with me. (They both love this activity, but I got to watch my step with so many crazy ex's just waiting for someone to screw up. LOL)

KarenESP
04-11-2004, 07:14 PM
The point I was making about soul mates, regardless of how you see it...angel families or some of the other theories mentioned... is that we should think in terms of opportunities or abundance, rather than scarcity and limitations.

If we get too hung up on the concept of one soul mate.. then there will only be one... if we get too hung up on the notion that we may never find this person, than we may not. Our minds create our realities... we can only find or see what we truly believe.

I have held out this concept of soul mates before, but Loramar, through one of her generous readings, reminded me to emphasize the abundance issue, regarding soul mates. Also, life and spiritual growth requires, that we understand the importance of the possibility of multiple soul mates.

Sylvia Brown, may seem a bit callous, but she has the same principle at heart, in her terms. Sylvia Brown is the first psychic I read about back in 1991.. she inspired me. I believe she is a good starting point, but we must all grow and later, make up our own minds from there.

And Texana... I believe your family was planned in advance... the way your stepson resembles the rest of you is merely validation that this has occurred.

In the end, if we treated every human being as family, what kind of a world would we have? Would we have starving children, homeless people??? This message of spirit has come for Texana to share and I hope she continues to do so... there are larger reasons behind a family resemblence shared despite the fact that the entire family is not genetically related.

Sincerely, KarenEsP
Wonderful Discussion Everyone Thank you Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

robinmom
04-11-2004, 07:30 PM
The point I was making about soul mates, regardless of how you see it...angel families or some of the other theories mentioned... is that we should think in terms of opportunities or abundance, rather than scarcity and limitations.

If we get too hung up on the concept of one soul mate.. then there will only be one... if we get too hung up on the notion that we may never find this person, than we may not. Our minds create our realities... we can only find or see what we truly believe.

I have held out this concept of soul mates before, but Loramar, through one of her generous readings, reminded me to emphasize the abundance issue, regarding soul mates. Also, life and spiritual growth requires, that we understand the importance of the possibility of multiple soul mates.

Sylvia Brown, may seem a bit callous, but she has the same principle at heart, in her terms. Sylvia Brown is the first psychic I read about back in 1991.. she inspired me. I believe she is a good starting point, but we must all grow and later, make up our own minds from there.

And Texana... I believe your family was planned in advance... the way your stepson resembles the rest of you is merely validation that this has occurred.

In the end, if we treated every human being as family, what kind of a world would we have? Would we have starving children, homeless people??? This message of spirit has come for Texana to share and I hope she continues to do so... there are larger reasons behind a family resemblence shared despite the fact that the entire family is not genetically related.

Sincerely, KarenEsP
Wonderful Discussion Everyone Thank you Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

makes absolute sence....in a way ..i remember when i was very small the teacher saying we are all related....dna and well u know by this or that.but we are also related by soul mates...usually by the circle of souls u travel with from life to life each coming into ur life for a reason u each need to learn at the time..sometime a glimps sometimes ur lifetime...but most there...

now as people dont die at the same time...and come back at the same time..i also belive that we have more souls mates we travel..so say from one life we need these mates so they are there andanothe rlife we need others in the circle so they are there...who know exaclty how big the list goes of ur soul mates...maybe everyone really...

im sure there is a close knit area of them that do stay close close..but my guess is the world or close to it can be as well as a crossing person across the street waving hi...i mean haveu even just bumped into somone and felt u know them...and never seen them again in ur life...that was a soul mate...

ok im babblinghere ...but i think u understand.

so there is a small circles of soul mates and a larger one as well
:biggrinbo

Gaia1Goddess
04-12-2004, 08:59 AM
We can go months and months without contacting one another, but are able to pick up where we left off when we do.

Is that a soulmate? :hug1:

I've found that with a few special friends. We could go six months and nothing changes. It's very beautiful!

I have a deep connection with two men in my life. Everytime I think of them I just beam. I love them dearly and they are such wonderful souls. If only I could meet a straight guy that I had that connection with. :roll1:

robinmom
04-12-2004, 01:12 PM
I've found that with a few special friends. We could go six months and nothing changes. It's very beautiful!

I have a deep connection with two men in my life. Everytime I think of them I just beam. I love them dearly and they are such wonderful souls. If only I could meet a straight guy that I had that connection with. :roll1: :roll1:

maybe they where a sister or brother or mate or best friend in ur previous life...i have a few people like that..i think they where in ur inner circle of souls the one u move around with from life to life close not far apart

Gaia1Goddess
04-12-2004, 01:15 PM
:roll1:

maybe they where a sister or brother or mate or best friend in ur previous life...i have a few people like that..i think they where in ur inner circle of souls the one u move around with from life to life close not far apart

That makes sense to me. We always seem to gravitate back to those people. It's great!

robinmom
04-12-2004, 01:23 PM
I think it is..its such a close comforting feeling...probably why we choose to be in the close circle.... :2_thumbs_

KarenESP
04-12-2004, 09:31 PM
You have made several wonderful points...

Thank you Robin and all who have graciously posted their wisdom to this thread. Sincerely, KarenESP

robinmom
04-12-2004, 09:35 PM
ur welcome karen..usually we on the same wavelngth when it comes to this stuff..and its something i feel and belive in..not taught...that what makes it extra special :cheer2:

Robinmom
07-12-2004, 08:46 PM
just subscribing to this thrad again..lost my subscribtions :cheer2:

KarenESP
07-13-2004, 09:41 AM
Always knows when to bring up an old thread.. a golden oldie.. hee hee, this is your greatest talent... teaching by happy luck and happenstance!
You go girl!

Robinmom
07-13-2004, 10:20 AM
well its a very good subject..:)